Wednesday, July 05, 2006

!UPDATED! Jew Gotta Be Kiddin' Me !UPDATED!

Posted by codemorse

UPDATE:



In a recent turn of events, Stop the ACLU published the home phone number and home address of the family on their website, highlighting it as the first instance of an ongoing "project" called "Expose the ACLU Plaintiff".

....the Stop The ACLU project is supported, by their claims, by a "team" of over two hundred right-wing bloggers. They've gotten positive attention from World Net Daily and Free Republic, been invited to low-class radio outfits, and been the benefactors of links from a passel of blogs that ranges from Debbie Schlussel and Michelle Malkin....

The biggest irony of the Stop the ACLU action against this family? That ACLU involvement in this case has been minimal: aside from putting the family in touch with a local attorney willing to take the case pro bono, and an ACLU speaker in support of the family at the hostile 2004 school board meeting, the organization is not otherwise involved in the case.

Here's an excerpt from Stop the ACLU's site:



To all you liberals who are reading this web page as a result of a link from Salon, the Daily Kos or one of your other obnoxious blogs, be advised that there have been some minor corrections made to this page, not as a direct result of your e-mails but because I believe it was the right thing to do.

Yet let me say that this individual below is not the sole target here. It's just that I have not had time to update this page. But now I will. And I assure you of this - the more e-mails you send, the faster I will get more individuals and groups posted. And believe me, I have a lot of them.So if you think you're angry at me now, just wait until we post more cases.

We love making you mad and will do all we can to see you become unglued.And for those of you who say I'm a Jew hater, you better have your facts straight about my nationality as I am part Jewish (on my mom's side) and proudly so.

Lastly, thank you for all the hits to our site and getting us so much attention. You are helping us become the number 1 pit bull against the ACLU.


Wow. Talk about passive-aggressive. "You dirty liberals didn't shame me into anything! I changed my site because I'm a good person! I'm part-Jewish!"

And check this out:


I am pleased that we had an effect in this case. We have others we want to put up on the site to shame them but have not gotten around to it.

Shame them? For what? For wanting to be treated as equal human beings?

Fascinating. And frankly disturbing to me. Part-Jewish or not, ol' Neddie is knowingly opening up an already-harassed family with small children to further and more finely-targeted harassment.

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The Original Post:

From Jews On First:




A large Delaware school district promoted Christianity so aggressively that a Jewish family felt it necessary to move to Wilmington, two hours away, because they feared retaliation for filing a lawsuit. The religion (if any) of a second family in the lawsuit is not known, because they're suing as Jane and John Doe; they also fear retaliation. Both families are asking relief from "state-sponsored religion."

Among numerous specific examples in the complaint was what happened at plaintiff Samantha Dobrich's graduation in 2004 from the district's high school. She was the only Jewish student in her graduating class. The complaint relates that local pastor, Jerry Fike, in his invocation, followed requests for "our heavenly Father's" guidance for the graduates with: I also pray for one specific student, that You be with her and guide her in the path that You have for her. And we ask all these things in Jesus' name.

The Dobriches said the prayers to Jesus' ruined the graduation experience for Samantha. Mona Dobrich, Samantha's mother, repeatedly called district officials to complain. A board member told her she would have to get the matter put on a meeting agenda -- then refused to put it on the agenda. The school superintendent slipped the topic onto the agenda and then told Mona Dobrich she would need to raise it during the public comment period.

The board opened the June 15, 2004 meeting at which Dobrich was prepared to speak with a prayer in Jesus' name. The board was not forthcoming to her request that official prayers be in "God's name" rather than in Jesus' name. The high school athletic director veered from his agenda topic to encourage the board to keep praying in Jesus' name. Board member Donald Hattier followed Dobrich out and offered to "compromise" by keeping graduation free of prayers to Jesus. And, according to the complaint, he warned her not to hire a lawyer. The complaint recounts a raucous crowd that applauded the board's opening prayer and then, when sixth-grader Alexander Dobrich stood up to read a statement, yelled at him "take your yarmulke off!" His statement, read by Samantha, confided "I feel bad when kids in my class call me Jew boy."

A state representative spoke in support of prayer and warned board members that "the people" would replace them if they faltered on the issue. Other representatives spoke against separating "god and state."

A former board member suggested that Mona Dobrich might "disappear" like Madalyn Murray O'Hair, the atheist whose Supreme Court case resulted in ending organized school prayer. She disappeared in 1995 and her dismembered body was found six years later.


Wow. And Christians wonder why they're being "oppressed." Maybe it's because your average citizen fears the taunting and harming of their family as a direct result of their religious differences? Maybe calling kids "Jew boy," telling them they "killed Christ," and suggesting that their mother be dismembered are causes for some amount of alarm.

Maybe Christians feel oppressed because even fellow Christians see stories like this and feel the urge to mock this kind of "faith." Maybe showing massive intolerance and possibly physically-violent behavior toward non-Christians has made them just a little wary of the religion as a whole.

This brings up what I consider to be an interesting question. Namely, should we attempt to force people to get along? Or should we allow a sort of social natural selection to divide the country into more rarified camps?

And is allowing that sort of natural selection any different, really, from the concept of Separate but Equal? Was the forcing of school integration something worth doing?

Schools offer the potential to transcend barriers of class, religion and race by bringing together children of different backgrounds. But should we bother?

Or should the "Activist Judges" keep their noses out of it?

3 Comments:

At 8:29 AM, Blogger Scott Roche said...

G_d help us.

 
At 9:40 AM, Blogger codemorse said...

God helps those that help themselves. :)

What's your opinion? Should we attempt to enforce integration? Should this sort of thing be tolerated?

There's an argument to be made that the courts and the government should stay out of local affairs. Certainly I've made that argument more than once.

But that argument necessitates that families like this find some of their "own kind" to live near and go to school with.

It's an interesting way to look at judicial "activism," I think.

 
At 10:43 AM, Blogger Scott Roche said...

Well as far as forcing integration goes, we did that in the sixties to both good and bad ends. I like the idea of neighborhood schools and hate the idea of bussing. Unfortunately this leads to schools that aren't very diverse adn I think exposing kids to other cultures/experiences is a good thing, though not necessarilly solely the schools responsibility. So should we force diversity? I don't know that we can. We should encourage it and in areas like this were people are being abused because they are different we should step in and pimp smack the idiots in question.

I like what I'm seeing in my area, a larger selection of schools to choose from. That way you can go to a school near you that has a focus you like and that could encourage diversity without mandating that the school be so.

And regarding the ACLU, I'm not their biggest fan. I think that they've stepped away from their original intent in some cases. That happens when any organization/individual gets too big for its britches (here I'm thinking mostly of Dobson and Focus on the Family). But this anti-ACLU guy takes the fruitcake.

 

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