Wednesday, July 19, 2006

The Legacy Of Violence

Posted by codemorse

From Yahoo News/the AP:

Israeli girls write messages on a shell at a heavy artillery position near Kiryat Shmona, in northern Israel, next to the Lebanese border, Monday, July 17, 2006. Diplomatic efforts to end Israeli-Hezbollah fighting gained traction Monday, with Israeli officials saying the country would agree to halt fighting if its two captured soldiers were returned and Islamic guerrillas withdrew from the border. Publicly, the officials continued to insist their goal was to dismantle Hezbollah. But senior aides to Prime Minister Ehud Olmert office said he told his Italian counterpart, Romano Prodi, that Israel would accept cease-fire terms of Hezbollah releasing the Israeli soldiers and withdrawing from the border.

I certainly hope that Hezbollah does exactly that.

I feel a compulsion to provide a link to my Munich review here.


At 9:46 AM, Blogger Jabawacefti said...

Maybe I'm just tired, but I still tire of the moral equivalence.

At 9:59 AM, Blogger codemorse said...

I'd like to chalk it up to you being tired.

Regardless of the actions of the enemy, the sight of children writing messages on bombs is a universally sad one.

To argue otherwise would seem to me to be the very definition of moral equivalence. as in: It's good/okay for children to be signing instruments of death in this case, but not in others.

Drink pomogranate juice.

At 3:40 PM, Blogger Jabawacefti said...

Of course it's sad.

But to cite one example of poor behavior, rather than an entire system of incitement, as evidence of equivalence, is misguided, if not wholly inappropriate.

Which isn't to say I don't understand it. You have to understand the historical context to grasp the fundamental differences of what is going on here. And most Americans are just simply not aware of them.

Most Americans think that the history of the Middle East began in 2001. Or maybe some in the early 90's.

I hate to do this, but you could always do the same thing in the past:

Look at the allies carpetbomb the German people, as the cycle of violence continues...etc., etc.

The fact of the matter is, it takes a full historical perspective, and a full awareness of the players and their objectives to take these isolated instances and make any sense of them.

That's why most people look at this and just throw their hands up in disgust. Cycle of violence...hatred vs. hatred, etc. It's not that simple, and attempting to simplify it as such isn't particularly accurate, even if understandable.

And I hate pomogranate juice.

At 5:35 PM, Blogger codemorse said...

With respect, I think that's an overintellectualization - one that doesn't really apply to what I've posted.

What does any of that have to do with the image of children autographing bombs? How does grasping the moment in the context of history negate or equivocate the sadness of such an image?

And how does my sadness over the image equate to not understanding the problems of the middle-east?

At 6:47 PM, Blogger Jabawacefti said...

Well perhaps. I guess I was commenting on the comparative focus. It's never ok for children to be signing their names on bombs. I think that's agreed. But to the extent that the post has any relevance to the current conflict or the conflict generally, of course it has to be taken in the context of the wider issues. Otherwise, what is the point in posting it, other than a isolated commentary on bad things that happen from time to time?


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