Tuesday, April 04, 2006

Whither France?

Apparently, one million people in France came out today in protest of the CPE, a proposed law that allows employers to fire young employees within the first two years of their employment.

Zut alors! Quelle dommage! This is the home of the great Fabian Barthez?

Ironic, is it not? Our enlightened European allies, ever heckling the ignorant American, are so vigorously protesting a measure designed to lower the rising unemployment of "youth" workers (currently at 22%). Any why are they protesting? "Firing people more easily won't bring more jobs." Surely someone in France has taken an economics course.

If an employer cannot fire someone regardless of that person's competence, just how excited do you think that employer will be to hire someone?

Today, France's unemployment stands at 10%, over twice that of the United States. No matter, let the economic suicide commence.

Move over France, India and China are coming through.


At 7:33 PM, Blogger codemorse said...


At 8:16 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

*Sigh* First of all, if you are going to attempt to comment on the current political situation in France, it always helps to be in possession of all the facts. To do otherwise, looks foolish and silly.

Your brief assessment of the CPE, "a proposed law that allows employers to fire young employees within the first two years of their employment" is both out of date and inaccurate.

The law or rather what's left of it has now changed (President Jacques Chirac's speech, last Friday. Ring any bells? Thought not).

It really does pay to do one's research.

As for your comments, "Our enlightened European allies, ever heckling the ignorant American".

Well, they are are your words and thank you very much, you are most kind.

While it's very nice (as a European) to be thought of so highly, I do think you're being a tad harsh on the Americans though. "Ignorant"? I really think that is pushing it to the point of being rude.

Moving along.

I was particularly struck by this sentence or statement (of yours) "Surely someone in France has taken an economics course". Tricky one this. Yes, I can fully understand how you would have a particular problem with this.

Regretably, as much as I would love to answer your question in the affirmative and sit here and discuss the 30 French economists I'm aware of, may I suggest that you use Google. It's ever so useful you know.

Onwards and upwards

"Today, France's unemployment stands at 10%, over twice that of the United States".

Can't really argue with that. France's unemployment rate is indeed abysmal and for your information runs at approx 23% among the 15-24 age-group.

Trouble is though, French youngsters are generally too intelligent and smart to settle for any old crap job. It may work in other countries but the young French aren't going to settle for a lifetime of flipping burgers for minimum wage.

I thought this comment was also amusing (based on your earlier comments):

"No matter, let the economic suicide commence".

I happen to disagree with you, but if you could expand the above sentence to something like a paragraph, that would be a start and maybe like, oh yeah, cool, we could kinda discuss it.


As for China and India. Yes indeed, those two countries are formidable, but that has been known for a long time.

How all of us in the West cope
with the prospect of our domestic industries being challenged by these two countries remains to be seen. And that applies to all countries and not just France.

At 10:21 PM, Blogger codemorse said...

Welcome to Codemorse, "anonymous." Thanks for taking the time to write your response to the posted article. Our resident conservative correspondent, Jabawacefti, will assumedly answer your points in the near future.

I encourage you to poke around. Comments are always appreciated. Just keep a civil tone, and enjoy yourself.

At 9:13 AM, Blogger Jabawacefti said...

First of all, Codemorse, BARTHEZ!!!!

Second, Anonymous, thanks for the response, I should have provided for a fuller exposition, but had a busier day than usual.

I actually was aware that Chirac had proposed a watered down version of the proposed bill, but was not aware of any formal change in the bill itself. I admit a certain ignorance to French law and legislation, but assumed (perhaps wrongly) that it was premature to assume anything had specifically changed in the proposed bill. In any case, whether the amount of time an employee is hired before that person can be fired is one year or two years doesn't really change my thesis. Although I appreciate the correction.

As far as what Europeans think of Americans, well, let's just say that the opinions vary:


Meanwhile, whether the French are too "intelligent" to settle for "old crap job[s]," well good for them. The problem is this, there aren't merely two categories of jobs, (1) those for intelligent people, and (2) those for the "burger flippers."

And even the brightest have to do something to eat. Despite the fact that we all wish it were so, being intelligent doesn't put food on the table.

It's a curious answer to say that the French are too smart to work. And the enonomic model of increasing immigration to allow for the not-so-brilliant to flip your burgers doesn't really seem to be working either:



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